Thursday, December 08, 2005
Churches closed for Christmas!?!
Welcome to the suburbs of Laodicea!
Rank-and-file believers should be calling down Heaven over this.
By RACHEL ZOLL AP Religion Writer
The Associated Press
Dec 6, 2005 — This Christmas, no prayers will be said in several megachurches around the country. Even though the holiday falls this year on a Sunday, when churches normally host thousands for worship, pastors are canceling services, anticipating low attendance on what they call a family day.
Read all about it, from The Associated Press via ABC.
I read about this yesterday. The ABC article didn't mention it, but there are several groups protesting the move. I'll see if I can find the article or some other links.
Guess this is what happens when you "focus on the family."
The phrase "spineless, self-righteous Capitalistic hypocritical swine" comes to mind.
You know why churches are cancelling Christmas Day services? Because the Pastors and higher-ups at the Church want their holiday, that's why. If attendance has anything to do with it, it's because their won't be as many people tithing and offering, hence less revenue. Family day my liberal arse, it's because it would be cheaper to not have church than have it.
And by the way, let's all be thankful that low attendance worship didn't stop Jesus from having church.
Hmmm, wonder why?
Mark's comment is somewhat entertaining in light of the fact that I posted this very issue on his site a couple days ago and neither him nor his like-minded brethren had one word to say about it. They did opine at length over "Happy Holidays" and being offended by the celebration of Kwanzaa.
Meanwhile, yes, it IS the mainline churches, that is, the so-called "liberal churches" -- Lutherans, United Methodists, Presbyterians, etc. -- who will be honoring the Sabbath and having church on Christmas Sunday. As usual.
So Mark's attack is ill-placed.
Again, as usual.
Mark, don't be such an asshole.
ER, Merry Christmas. Oh, I guess I could wait a couple days for that. :-)
Trixie, you up for a Mark whoopin'? :-)
And I have to chuckle at GP a bit because one thing I *would* have said, if I'd had sufficient time, was that being a Baptist or a Methodist or a Lutheran or a Presbyterian or an Episcopalian or whatever does not translate into being "conservative" or "liberal". Which is what peeved me about Mark's remark.
I don't think I really want to open another can of worms, but I can't imagine why anyone would object to the celebration of Kwanzaa either.
And Kwanzaa, at heart, is a black separatist movement, if you read their stuff. Or, at least a black nationalism movement, which is close enough to the same thing, even considering a broad, academic definition of "nation."
"Happy Kwanzaa," in my opinion, is akin to some ol' unreconstructed redneck wishing all a "Merry WHITE Christmas," if you know what I mean and I know you do.
Away with Kwanzaa. Up with America, with all its damn warts, moles and cankers!
We DO celebrate America, several times a year. Usually at times that are a heck of a lot warmer, like Memorial Day, the 4th of July. Or Flag Day. Or Veteran's Day. But then there's Presidents' Day in February, another cold holiday.
SO WHAT if a cultural subgroup chooses a cultural celebration? Is it all that different from stump burnings? Look at the seven principles:
To strive for and maintain unity in the family, community, nation and race.
To define ourselves, name ourselves, create for ourselves and speak for ourselves.
Ujima (Collective Work and Responsibility)
To build and maintain our community together and make our brother's and sister's problems our problems and to solve them together.
Ujamaa (Cooperative Economics)
To build and maintain our own stores, shops and other businesses and to profit from them together.
To make our collective vocation the building and developing of our community in order to restore our people to their traditional greatness.
To do always as much as we can, in the way we can, in order to leave our community more beautiful and beneficial than we inherited it.
To believe with all our heart in our people, our parents, our teachers, our leaders and the righteousness and victory of our struggle.
In my opinion, there is value in these. Some of these are more meaningful than parroting "family values! family values!"
Some of these positions are not vastly different from what we as Christians should espouse -- take care of each other and make the world better. Show respect to our leaders and families. Be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. You're known by the company you keep. Stand up, look people in the eye and tell them what you know and what you believe.
And speaking of celebrations, what in the WORLD is up with those guys in the Sonic commercial, celebrating the fact that they are Tatertotatarians?
And by the way, on my Happy Holidays post, I made the point that it didn't offend me that people say Happy Holidays or Happy Hannukah or Happy Kwanzaa instead of Merry Christmas.
You are right, I don't separate my politics from my religion. At least, I understand that when Jesus commanded His followers to "Go into all the world, and preach the Gospel", He didn't mean go into all the world except government buildings.
Christmas is a holiday celebrated in the heart. By that I mean we all keep Christmas in our own way.
And I bet there are a lot more athiest and agnostic Liberals than Conservatives. Somebody should look up that statistic. I have no idea where to start but I bet that would be an interesting study.
"Kwanzaa is no holiday in my opinion. It is just an invention of racists to further separate themselves from the majority of the population, who are quite happy to regard the racists as equals, but understandably reluctant to see them as superiors, as they wish."
That's a mighty friendly observation. Happy Kwanzaa!
As a liberal, the reason I'm not up in arms about megachurches cancelling services is that I would never in a jillion years attend a megachurch anyway--I think they're tacky, shallow, and spiritually bereft. And Catholic churches are holding mass--in fact Xmas is, I think, the biggest church-going day for Catholics all year.
I've taken a few things that are directly from the
Official Kwanzaa site, and one quote from the Los
I knew that Kwanzaa was a "Blacks Only" Holiday but
did not realize that it was totally an off shoot of the
1960 "Black Power" movment and the Pan Africanism of
Just a few things of interest:
The Quotable Karenga, laid out the "True Path of
The sevenfold path of blackness is:
Ron N Everett a.k.a. Maulana Karenga 1969 (founder of Kwanzaa)
And Now the updated Ph.D. version:( the (Black)paren's are mine, drlobojo)
The Seven Principles of Kwanzaa
I. UMOJA (UNITY) (oo-MOE-jah) - To strive for and
maintain unity in the(Black) family, community, nation and
II. KUJICHAGULIA (SELF DETERMINATION)
(koo-jee-cha-goo-LEE-ah) - To define ourselves, name
ourselves, create for ourselves and speak for
III. UJIMA (COLLECTIVE WORK AND RESPONSIBILITY)
(oo-JEE-mah) - To build and maintain our(Black) community
together and to make our (Black)brothers' and sisters'
problems our problems and to solve them together.
IV. UJAMAA (COOPERATIVE ECONOMICS) (oo-JAH-mah) - To
build and maintain our own (Black)stores, shops and other
businesses and to profit together from them.
V. NIA (PURPOSE) (nee-AH) - To make as our (Black)collective
vocation the building and developing of our (Black)community
in order to restore our (Black)people to their traditional
VI. KUUMBA (CREATIVITY) (koo-OOM-bah) - To do always
as much as we can, in the way that we can, in order to
leave our (Black)community more beautiful and beneficial than
when we inherited it.
VII. IMANI (FAITH) (ee-MAH-nee) - To believe with all
our hearts in our parents, our teachers, our leaders,
our people and the righteousness and victory of our
Dr. Maulana Karenga 2005
The Kwansa flag and colors
Origin of the Flag of Pan-Africanism and/or Black
Red is for the Blood. Black is the Black
People. Green is for the Land.
Red, Black and Green are the oldest national colors
known to man. They are used as the flag of the Black
Liberation Movement in America today, but actually go
back to the Zinj Empires of ancient Africa, which
existed thousands of years before Rome, Greece,
France, England or America.
The Red, or the blood, stands as the top of all
things. We lost our land through blood; and we cannot
gain it except through blood. We must redeem our lives
through the blood. Without the shedding of blood there
can be no redemption of this race.
However, the bloodshed and sorrow will not last
always. The Red significantly stands in our flag as a
reminder of the truth of history, and that men must
gain and keep their liberty, even at the risk of
The Black is in the middle. The Black man in this
hemisphere has yet to obtain land which is represented
by the Green. The acquisition of land is the highest
and noblest aspiration for the Black man on this
continent, since without land there can be no freedom,
justice, independence, or equality.
The colors were established in 1920 as the banner of
the Universal Negro Improvement Association (UNIA),
and adopted as the symbol of Africans in America at
the convention of the Negro People's of the World. It
is a symbol of the devotion of all African people to
the liberation of the African Continent, and the
establishment of a Nation in Africa ruled by
descendents of slaves from the Western World.
WE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE RED, BLACK, AND GREEN, OUR
FLAG, THE SYMBOL OF OUR ETERNAL STRUGGLE, AND TO THE
LAND WE MUST OBTAIN; ONE NATION OF BLACK PEOPLE, WITH
ONE GOD OF US ALL, TOTALLY UNITED IN THE STRUGGLE, FOR
BLACK LOVE, BLACK FREEDOM, AND BLACK
Shaka Zulu where are you?
Jesus Bans 'Christian' Group
It was, apparently, the right response. "Totally in the moment," said Buddha, nodding vigorously in agreement. "It's about time," Vishnu sighed, painting his nails beet red and lighting some Nag Champa incense. "It's decisive and it sends a message," agreed Kali, counting her poker winnings. "You guys have any hummus?" Allah muttered, rifling through Christ's well-stocked fridge and not really paying attention.
"A slight ban is definitely in order," Christ continued, calmly, now appearing in a pile of instant mashed potatoes in a truck stop in Bowling Green, Ky., where his visage appeared to be weeping, but which Jesus said was merely caused by all the onions he'd been chopping to make his famed "Holy Christ!" hot salsa for the Seraphim Christmas office party.
"Nothing serious, just maybe three, four thousand years wherein these Focus on the Family nutballs and especially this hateful Dobson fellow shall receive only sporadic blessings and deferred prayer responses and will have to go all the way to the back of the line, behind Dick Cheney and Tim LaHaye and Mel Gibson, to await salvation."
"Hell, I still love them all. Even Dobson," the One added, flashing his trademark dazzling, compassionate grin. "I just don't like them very much."
Drlobojob, thanks for the Kwanza facts.
Also, perhaps you shpuld have continued reading the comments on my post. This is another of the comments written by an Asian:
"The founder, Ron Karenga, is filled with hatred toward whites and hatred toward America. Karenga is nothing more than a Marxist thug.
There may be some people who may innocently practice Kwanzaa as a celebration of the African Harvest; but Marxist Karenga's Kwanzaa is about socialism and Afrocentrism. There is a Kwanzaa flag, and the pledge that goes along with it, is racist through and through:
"We pledge allegiance to the red, black, and green, our flag, the symbol of our eternal struggle, and to the land we must obtain; one nation of black people, with one God of us all, totally united in the struggle, for black love, black freedom, and black self-determination."
Kwanzaa is a political statement for the establishment of a separate black nation on the American continent. Karenga himself says, "People think it's African but it's not. I came up with Kwanzaa because Black people wouldn't celebrate it if they knew it was American. Also, I put it around Christmas because I knew that's when a lot of Bloods would be partying."
He also explains that his creation of Kwanzaa in 1966, was motivated by hostilitiy toward Christianity and Judaism."
And if my church doesn't hold services on Christmas, I will take the opportunity to visit another church that day.
May all your Winter Solstice Sacrifices be blessed and Spring return before the food runs out.
And the Erudite Redneck Rule of Blogging:
"Don't blog drunk."