Thursday, May 28, 2009
What's a little rape between enemies?
I really wish I had any reason whatsoever to doubt this.
Pentagon denies that prison torture photos show rape
But I don't.
--ER
Pentagon denies that prison torture photos show rape
But I don't.
--ER
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We should not be surprised.
And we should be deeply, deeply shamed.
One of those days where America damns itself.
And we should be deeply, deeply shamed.
One of those days where America damns itself.
And it's also why my husband had a hellish day at work. Yeah, this is our dinner conversation and what he deals with daily.
This news story actually seems to be incorrect. Plenty of horrific and heinous Abu Ghraib photos to be had, but not the ones mentioned in the article. It's kind of baffling, really. I seriously doubt the Pentagon will get anyone to believe them.
This news story actually seems to be incorrect. Plenty of horrific and heinous Abu Ghraib photos to be had, but not the ones mentioned in the article. It's kind of baffling, really. I seriously doubt the Pentagon will get anyone to believe them.
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: 8:08 PM
: 8:08 PM
Re, "I seriously doubt the Pentagon will get anyone to believe them."
That's far from the tragedy of the torture itself, but a tragedy nonetheless.
That's far from the tragedy of the torture itself, but a tragedy nonetheless.
Excerpts from the Excutive summary from Taguba's Report in 2004.
"[B]etween October and December 2003, at the Abu Ghraib Confinement Facility (BCCF), numerous incidents of sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses were inflicted on several detainees. This systemic and illegal abuse of detainees was intentionally perpetrated by several members of the military police guard force. … The allegations of abuse were substantiated by detailed witness statements (ANNEX 26) and the discovery of extremely graphic photographic evidence. … I find that the intentional abuse of detainees by military police personnel included the following acts:
a. Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet;
b. Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees;
c. Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing;
d. Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time;
e. Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's underwear;
f. Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped;
g. Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them;
h. Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture; …
j. Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female soldier pose for a picture;
k. A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee;
l. Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least one case biting and severely injuring a detainee …
These findings are amply supported by written confessions provided by several of the suspects, written statements provided by detainees, and witness statements. …
In addition, several detainees also described the following acts of abuse, which under the circumstances, I find credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses (ANNEX 26):
a. Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees;
b. Threatening detainees with a charged 9mm pistol;
c. Pouring cold water on naked detainees;
d. Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair;
e. Threatening male detainees with rape; …
g. Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick."
—Executive summary of Taguba report, finalized Feb. 29, 2004, briefed to superiors on March 3, 2004, and submitted in final form on March 9, 2004.
Yep it was all there just like they said. Now we know, by words from Dick himself, it was authorized by the White House, a.k.a. Bush, Cheney, Gonzoles, et. al..
This was published five years ago.
Nothing new, now it will just be illustrated.
Of course if the additional "photographic evidence" from the report is totally released innocent people will die from the horrific reactions on the Arab Street, just like they did last time.
"[B]etween October and December 2003, at the Abu Ghraib Confinement Facility (BCCF), numerous incidents of sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses were inflicted on several detainees. This systemic and illegal abuse of detainees was intentionally perpetrated by several members of the military police guard force. … The allegations of abuse were substantiated by detailed witness statements (ANNEX 26) and the discovery of extremely graphic photographic evidence. … I find that the intentional abuse of detainees by military police personnel included the following acts:
a. Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet;
b. Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees;
c. Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing;
d. Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time;
e. Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's underwear;
f. Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped;
g. Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them;
h. Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture; …
j. Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female soldier pose for a picture;
k. A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee;
l. Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least one case biting and severely injuring a detainee …
These findings are amply supported by written confessions provided by several of the suspects, written statements provided by detainees, and witness statements. …
In addition, several detainees also described the following acts of abuse, which under the circumstances, I find credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses (ANNEX 26):
a. Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees;
b. Threatening detainees with a charged 9mm pistol;
c. Pouring cold water on naked detainees;
d. Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair;
e. Threatening male detainees with rape; …
g. Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick."
—Executive summary of Taguba report, finalized Feb. 29, 2004, briefed to superiors on March 3, 2004, and submitted in final form on March 9, 2004.
Yep it was all there just like they said. Now we know, by words from Dick himself, it was authorized by the White House, a.k.a. Bush, Cheney, Gonzoles, et. al..
This was published five years ago.
Nothing new, now it will just be illustrated.
Of course if the additional "photographic evidence" from the report is totally released innocent people will die from the horrific reactions on the Arab Street, just like they did last time.
And these are the findings of an in-house investigation by a US Army Major General -- not a report from a detainee -- who is quoted by the New Yorker as saying "that he saw a video of a male American soldier in uniform sodomizing a female detainee."
Video. Not pictures alone.
Video.
And as regards k. "k. A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee..."
... it seems to me that "having sex" is a gross misnomer. Rape is not having sex. At the very, very least, it would be sexual coercion if no force was involved.
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Video. Not pictures alone.
Video.
And as regards k. "k. A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee..."
... it seems to me that "having sex" is a gross misnomer. Rape is not having sex. At the very, very least, it would be sexual coercion if no force was involved.
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