Monday, May 11, 2009
Leather-bound graven images
We humans have a tendency to fall into idolatry quickly. Idolatry is always wrong, even when worshiping objects that point to God. Many worship the Bible, rather than the one to whom the Bible points.
The Bible is not the fullest revelation of God; Jesus as the Word taking on flesh is the fullest revelation of God.
Only God should be worshiped, not the book that reveals God.
Read all of "A pop quiz for biblical literalists" by Miguel De La Torre, from Associated Baptist Press.
Unfortunately, "the word" is our main gateway to "knowledge" these days.
Korzybski in 1933, "...held a view that human beings are limited in what they know by (1) the structure of their nervous systems, and (2) the structure of their languages. Human beings cannot experience the world directly, but only through their "abstractions" (nonverbal impressions or "gleanings" derived from the nervous system, and verbal indicators expressed and derived from language). Sometimes our perceptions and our languages actually mislead us as to the "facts" with which we must deal. Our understanding of what is going on sometimes lacks similarity of structure with what is actually going on."
That would seem obvious now, it wasn't so much then.
I just recently ran into that phenomena on my expulsion from FCB. I have encountered it over and over and over when dealing in and among and between cultures in one of my former "jobs".
Back in 1963 I discovered " The Lost Books Of The Bible" and Stuart Chase's "Tyranny of Words" among other things in the OBU library. Through Chase I made it to Korzybski and semantics. At the time I wanted to be a word monger, alas I had no talent for it.
Semantics was the most liberating of concepts for me. Without it I would be among those commenter's degrading the obvious truth expressed by Miguel De La Torre.
One of the amusing things about cats is that they don't seem to be able to share a point of view. That is, if you point at something (say, a bug) on the floor, the cat will instead just stare at the end of your finger. Or ours do anyway, maybe they're just particularly dumb.
Anyway, that seems to be the problem with the fundies (well, one problem, the problems are legion).
(Even when a post isn't a cat post it can still be a cat post.) :)
do not rely on the bible alone. it is the finger pointing the way, it is not the way in and of itself. we make the road by walking, the truth is between us, and our relationships are what matter. worship of a book over the Holy Spirit which indwells and connects us is SUCH a tragedy in the Christian world.. but i can see why people would do it.
if you don't like chaos, if you're chaos-intolerant, it's best to place your faith in a book rather than a Spirit. The H.S. is a tricky thing because it moves, moves people, creates and reorders, and you can't really pin it down. a book on the other hand, always says the same thing and you can get into a routine of interpreting it in the same way everytime you read it.
the ironic thing is that this isn't really faith. it's certainty. and certainty is the opposite of faith.
and btw.. what is the Fellowship of Christian bloggers and how does one get on it?
Alan: So, one of my cats, Eames, can see her self in the mirror, and the other one, Ice-T, seems totally oblivious, seems to see the mirror itself only. Weird.
"One... can see her self in the mirror, and the other one... seems totally oblivious, seems to see the mirror itself only."
Of course there is a Fellowship of Christian Bloggers! How could there not be?
I'm the treasurer and if you send me the $25 annual membership dues, I'll make sure you get the newsletter just as soon as the next issue is out.
(Word verification: bilka -- no lie.)
And I want it Autographed.
It has the spiritual sword emblazoned on it, representing the version of the bible written by the Lords' own brother.
Even in the blogosphere, God's word is "living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing until it divides soul from spirit, joints from marrow... "
On second thought, you're no eligible. You eat barbecue and therefore do not allow joints and marrow to be divided AND you do not respect that leather book in your lap which, as any real Christian should confess, "is able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart."
It would sell like frickin' hotcakes.
Sorry...just struck me funny.
All I said was, don't you think Tupac and I have the same eyes?
Of course my icon was a bonobo ape so...... somebody was offended and FB concurred.
Irony are what?
Hate to admit it, but there is a kind of "fellowship of Christian bloggers" out there, a network of "Progressive Christian bloggers". They keep bugging me to join them, and my response is the same as Marx's (Groucho): "I would never join an organization that would have me as a member."
Banned from Facebook? For that?!?! Next you won't be allowed to go to the UK. What horse hockey! Doesn't the Aryan Nation have several groups on FB? I remember a couple of holocaust denial groups getting yanked not too long ago.
BTW, From Frans de Waal, "Bonobo Sex and Society" in Scientific American: "It seems though, that bonobos are female centred, more peaceful than chimpanzees, more egalitarian, and do have a much larger sexual repertoire." Apparently from the article, that is an understatement, although, I like that it includes make-up sex!
See The Life of Brian for details on understanding.
I might even change my moniker to Banobo Joe!
As for FB it could have been a friend of a friend who turned me in. Remember all of your friends friends see your post on FB.
No recourse of trumping the accusation with reasoned explanation?
Seems kind of lowest-denominator kind of process.