Thursday, April 17, 2008

 

More questions

A stem from this post, wherein I am found, again, to be a Conservative Democrat. Discuss.


1. The growing number of newcomers from other countries threaten traditional American customs and values -- AGREE.

or

The growing number of newcomers from other countries strengthens American society -- AGREE! Change is hard. The point is not the change; it's how we deal with it.



2. Homosexuality is a way of life that should be accepted by society

or

Homosexuality is a way of life that should be discouraged by society -- DISAGREE!!!! It's not a way of life.



3. The government should do more to protect morality in society

or

I worry the government is getting too involved in the issue of morality: AGREE: But, We are the People; we do have the right -- that is, the sovereignty -- to make such decisions; the balance is that this is not a democracy; majority does not overrule freedom and equity (fairness)!


4. Most people who want to get ahead can make it if they're willing to work hard

or

Hard work and determination are no guarantee of success for most people: AGREE. Hard work and willingness can get you far; but some people are trapped by circumstances beyond their control, and sometimes those circumstances can be ameliorated by We the People.


--ER

Comments:
Some people we will not let in, nor help, no mater what. They are the too poor, the too black, the too hungry. That's what make us hypocrites. Take the example from Haiti below. It is from the NYT's article today on world hunger and political unrest. This is the type of people that even if they make it here, we send them back, wet foot, dry foot, no feet at all:;,---we send them back.
...
"In the sprawling slum of Haiti’s Cité Soleil, Placide Simone, 29, offered one of her five offspring to a stranger. “Take one,” she said, cradling a listless baby and motioning toward four rail-thin toddlers, none of whom had eaten that day. “You pick. Just feed them.”
 
I'm not kidding when I say we should take down the Statue of Liberty and send it back to France with our regrets ... if we had any.
 
No surprise for me when I took that quiz -- I'll cheerfully admit I'm so far to the left I make Karl Marx look Republican. The only part about it that bothered me was getting labeled as a darn Liberal when I'm actually a hardcore socialist.

I'm with drlobojo on the hypocrisy. Someone from Cuba wants to come here, no problem. One toenail on the beach, a statement that they hate Castro, and they're in and will never, ever get shipped back even when other countries are trying to extradite them for terrorism (e.g., the guy who planned the bombing of a Venezualan airliner where ~90 people died). Someone from almost any other country on the planet? Totally different story.

Given the current prices for salvage copper, wouldn't it make more sense to recycle the statue than to ship it back?
 
You have a point, Nan.

What's the Liberty Bell made of??
 
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1. Just for the irony: Haiti is the second oldest Democracy in existence. It is the result of the only known successful slave rebellion. In order to pay for the war France lost to Haiti, Napoleon sold the U. S. A. the Louisiana Purchase.

2. ER, the northern arm of the New Madrid Fault moved today. 5.2 on the R Scale. That is putting more pressure directly on the main fault. Bye Bye Old River Diversion!
Hello to the new Mississippi River outlet.
May you live in interesting times.
 
Sister-Dr. ER felt it in Lebanon, Ohio! So did bloggy buddy Alan, up in Michigan!

Is the end near? Is this part of that big crack they talk about once in awhile up in Missouri??
 
That's odd. I know for a fact that this country has let in, legally, that is, very poor, very black and very hungry people. Where are you getting your info? At the same time, every nation has the right to monitor and refuse entry to anyone that does not meet the criteria or quota for a given period of time. There is nothing whatsoever wrong with this and is done for the purpose of the prevention of overburdening our system. You might not agree with the criteria or quota limit, nor might I, but that doesn't make it wrong or unethical. If anyone has any real insight into the rationale behind our current system of immigration, that would be great.

As for the Haitian example, how does a poor person become a parent of so many kids in the first place? It isn't poverty that does it. Poverty is the consequence. More than money, they need to understand basic truths, such as, if you can't afford a family, don't engage in that activity designed to produce one.

I would agree that a growing number of newcomers threaten traditional American customs and values and thus cannot strengthen us at the same time. They only strengthen us when they work to acclimate themselves to our culture and traditions (which doesn't mean they must totally discard their own, only they must take a back seat and/or remain within their own circle of family and friends).

One must more clearly define what is meant by the term "way of life".

The gov should do nothing on it's own to affect morality, and it certainly shouldn't do anything to lower the bar. They've done exactly that with Roe v Wade and some are attempting to do the same with homosexual behavior. The majority DOES overrule "fairness and equity" whenever a small minority claims to be treated unfairly or inequitably. Simply declaring that something is unfair doesn't make it so. More often than not in today's culture, it means nothing more than pouting and whining for not getting one's way.

There are NO guarantees regarding success. To be "trapped by circumstances beyond their control" more often than not means in reality that such folks gave up when faced with difficulty. Rarely is the case where the subject found himself trapped in such a situation. More likely, they acted in a manner that brought about their plight. The Haitian example fits here.
 
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