Thursday, March 27, 2008
'Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy!' (but it ain't too far off)
Quick! Pick! "Star Wars" or "The Dukes of Hazzard" -- which meant/means most to you? Why?
Myself: The Duke boys were just slightly overdrawn caricatures -- maybe not overdrawn at all, actually (until the last year or two of the series, when the whole thing became a funny book on TV).
But I knew of places like the Boar's Nest, and I knew people like those in the show.
"Star Wars" -- cool, very cool, but the tech glitz detracted from the story, to me.
Close call. But the Dukes win it.
Yerself?
--ER
(Tip o' the Resistol to Ronholio, for sendin' this my way.)
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No question: Star Wars.
One of very first sit-down theater movies I ever went to (as opposed to the drive in movies the folks used to take us to on a regular basis) at the old Silver Theater, a beautiful old movie palace (now torn down) by my oldest brother.
Had nightmares about Darth Vader living in my closet for a week, it was great.
I still have all my action figures. Not packed away, mind you, but standing in various little vignettes around my bookshelves in my den. And there are the giant Lego kits I've bought over the years, and the Millennium Falcon model, my big Darth Vader mask, etc...
I loved Star Wars because it was just a great old fashioned saturday morning serial, until Lucas killed it with the last 3 movies.
BTW, here's a funny article on Star Wars fandom:
http://www.jivemagazine.com/column.php?pid=3381
One of very first sit-down theater movies I ever went to (as opposed to the drive in movies the folks used to take us to on a regular basis) at the old Silver Theater, a beautiful old movie palace (now torn down) by my oldest brother.
Had nightmares about Darth Vader living in my closet for a week, it was great.
I still have all my action figures. Not packed away, mind you, but standing in various little vignettes around my bookshelves in my den. And there are the giant Lego kits I've bought over the years, and the Millennium Falcon model, my big Darth Vader mask, etc...
I loved Star Wars because it was just a great old fashioned saturday morning serial, until Lucas killed it with the last 3 movies.
BTW, here's a funny article on Star Wars fandom:
http://www.jivemagazine.com/column.php?pid=3381
OK, that video clip was effin' funny. Some other erudite redneck came up with that'n.
As for my likes, it's hands down "Dukes of Hazzard." I never cared for much of "Star Wars" after the original. I consider(ed) it hokey. Of course, I consider all science fiction hokey. That's just me (with all due respect to Dr. Lobo)
'Sides, "Dukes" had Daisy. The dang ol' princess was sure purty, but she tweren't wearin' skimpy short shorts. And Daisy didn't wear those silly buns in her hair.
As for my likes, it's hands down "Dukes of Hazzard." I never cared for much of "Star Wars" after the original. I consider(ed) it hokey. Of course, I consider all science fiction hokey. That's just me (with all due respect to Dr. Lobo)
'Sides, "Dukes" had Daisy. The dang ol' princess was sure purty, but she tweren't wearin' skimpy short shorts. And Daisy didn't wear those silly buns in her hair.
What kind of blaspheme is it in your shrunken redneck soul that would let you even put the Trilogy in the same paragraph, much less the same sentence as the Dicks of Hazzard? Next, you will be comparing Greece's Plato to Disney's Pluto.
I am going forthwith to The Shrine of New Hope in my garden and burn incense and a candle for you lest your soul be truly filled with the Darkside.
Nay, a dozen candles will not erase this stain, nor draw you back into the light. I am afraid not even Yoda can help you now!
I am going forthwith to The Shrine of New Hope in my garden and burn incense and a candle for you lest your soul be truly filled with the Darkside.
Nay, a dozen candles will not erase this stain, nor draw you back into the light. I am afraid not even Yoda can help you now!
Most definitely another vote for Star Wars from me.
First movie I can remember seeing, so I suppose my life-long love of religion, theology, science fiction, and Ewoks isn't surprising. 'Course, I was all of four years old when I saw it at the drive-in with my folks (who were completely shocked that I stayed awake for the whole thing). Brainwashed at an early age!
First movie I can remember seeing, so I suppose my life-long love of religion, theology, science fiction, and Ewoks isn't surprising. 'Course, I was all of four years old when I saw it at the drive-in with my folks (who were completely shocked that I stayed awake for the whole thing). Brainwashed at an early age!
Star Wars, definitely... the best of the 3, IMHO was The Empire Strikes Back.
As for the Dukes. It was okay the first season, then it got awfully silly. I even thought the short-lived spinoff with Enos was actually funny.
But speaking of Dukes, has anyone seen the movie that spawned the show? The Ridge Runners? Excellent! And not a hokey comedy.
!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!
Sheriff Roscoe ends up killin' Uncle Jesse.
As for the Dukes. It was okay the first season, then it got awfully silly. I even thought the short-lived spinoff with Enos was actually funny.
But speaking of Dukes, has anyone seen the movie that spawned the show? The Ridge Runners? Excellent! And not a hokey comedy.
!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!
Sheriff Roscoe ends up killin' Uncle Jesse.
My brother and sister loved that show. Whenever it happened to be on and we were alone ing the house and could watch TV, they had it turned to The Dukes of Hazzard.
I watched it, but my soul died inside a little each and every time.
Star Wars all the way for me. Han had a sexy smile. :-)
I watched it, but my soul died inside a little each and every time.
Star Wars all the way for me. Han had a sexy smile. :-)
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: 9:29 PM
: 9:29 PM
I saw the pilot show for the Dukes the summer before it came out as a series. I remember thinking that it was the dumbest thing I's ever seen. I was amazed when it became a series. I was appalled when southerners actually embaced the hollywood stereotypes of their own behavior. I am still confused as to why sons of the south endorse their own ridicule.
To compare an archetype like "Star Wars" to a commercial westcoast slapstick joke like "Dorks of Hazzard" becomes its own stereotypic example of redneck lack of thinking.
It always saddens me when the victims embrace their own denigration. In some ways it is like the "Stockholm Syndrom", but in this case we will innitiate the concept of the "Confederate Sin Drum". Southerners unwilling to admit or confess their guilt for subverting the rights of their black brethern, have that guilt emerge as self redicule and belittlement in the form of the Dukes who flaunt the sacred symbols and names of the most southern of icons in the most ridiculous of manners. Thus having beat the drum for their own self punishment, they can say to outsiders, see we really are just fun loving fools for whom all these past evils are simply funny.
Just kidding.
To compare an archetype like "Star Wars" to a commercial westcoast slapstick joke like "Dorks of Hazzard" becomes its own stereotypic example of redneck lack of thinking.
It always saddens me when the victims embrace their own denigration. In some ways it is like the "Stockholm Syndrom", but in this case we will innitiate the concept of the "Confederate Sin Drum". Southerners unwilling to admit or confess their guilt for subverting the rights of their black brethern, have that guilt emerge as self redicule and belittlement in the form of the Dukes who flaunt the sacred symbols and names of the most southern of icons in the most ridiculous of manners. Thus having beat the drum for their own self punishment, they can say to outsiders, see we really are just fun loving fools for whom all these past evils are simply funny.
Just kidding.
I have to agree that "Dukes" was beyond silly. I've watched episodes recently and wonder in amazement what in the world I enjoyed about the show. Then Daisy appears, and I recall my prepubescent thoughts toward the show.
"Dukes" also followed a formula that was established at that time: We want car crashes and high-flying motor stunts. Oh, and fire. And explosions. "C.H.I.P.s" was pretty darn popular and, in hindsight, quite stupid. But we watched it every week.
There are several differences between Dr. Lobo's thoughts and mine. First, he enjoys science fiction. I don't like science fiction. Second, he was an adult when "Dukes" was popular. He saw the over-the-top silliness. I had yet to grow facial hair. I thought it was "neat."
My reality is that "Star Wars" was just as silly and even more unbelievable. Living in Texas at the time both shows were revealed, I knew people who lived that same "Dukes" stereotype, only their supercharged vehicles didn't have elaborate paint jobs and featured varying colors of blue, black and rust.
"Dukes" also followed a formula that was established at that time: We want car crashes and high-flying motor stunts. Oh, and fire. And explosions. "C.H.I.P.s" was pretty darn popular and, in hindsight, quite stupid. But we watched it every week.
There are several differences between Dr. Lobo's thoughts and mine. First, he enjoys science fiction. I don't like science fiction. Second, he was an adult when "Dukes" was popular. He saw the over-the-top silliness. I had yet to grow facial hair. I thought it was "neat."
My reality is that "Star Wars" was just as silly and even more unbelievable. Living in Texas at the time both shows were revealed, I knew people who lived that same "Dukes" stereotype, only their supercharged vehicles didn't have elaborate paint jobs and featured varying colors of blue, black and rust.
I was 14 when the Dukes came out. I remember sitting on the edge of the coffee table inthe livin' room so I could see the TV real good.
My favorite part of "Star Wars" was the bar scene, and that was my favorite song on the sound track -- an 8-track, of course.
My favorite part of "Star Wars" was the bar scene, and that was my favorite song on the sound track -- an 8-track, of course.
Daisey offered up nothing that Princess Leia didn't far exceed in that Jabba The Hutt throne room and pleasure barge scenes.
Point of order, Dr. Lobo: I can't tell you what the princess offered to whatever that thing was, because I never saw that movie. I never will, either.
But Daisy Duke offered much more. What Leia offered was only seen on the big screen back then. Daisy was in my living room, and she came back each week.
But Daisy Duke offered much more. What Leia offered was only seen on the big screen back then. Daisy was in my living room, and she came back each week.
Teditor said:
"...I can't tell you what the princess offered to whatever that thing was, because I never saw that movie."
My friend then you are culturally deprived. I would say the Princess Leia's slave outfit in the "Return of the Jedi" should be enshrined at the Smithsonian as a major American cultural artifact.
Google: Images: princess leia slave outfit
Catch up on you boyhood!
"...I can't tell you what the princess offered to whatever that thing was, because I never saw that movie."
My friend then you are culturally deprived. I would say the Princess Leia's slave outfit in the "Return of the Jedi" should be enshrined at the Smithsonian as a major American cultural artifact.
Google: Images: princess leia slave outfit
Catch up on you boyhood!
I loved Star Wars. I was a member of the Star Wars Fan Club, I had posters all over my room, I was going to MARRY Han Solo (I still maintain to this day that he's too good for that snooty Princess Leia!). I obsessed about these movies long before I ever even saw a single film! Lacking a working movie theater in my home town and my mom's inability to drive more than 30 miles, I never even saw the movies until they showed up on TV. But I had novelized versions of the movies that I read faithfully, and comic books.
I watched the Dukes every week and had my own General Lee Hot Wheels that would race over the Hazzard County that was the kitchen counters. I wanted to be a Duke Boy. It never occurred to me to be Daisy; she just didn't have the fun. She never slid over the hood of the car. I tried that at 9 and nearly killed myself. And then nearly got killed again when my mom found out what I tried to do.
Duke boys win. They at least simply did a bad remake and didn't retoractively add crap to the classic shows. George Lucas killed Star Wars for me, him and Hayden Christensen. I love Star Wars but can't think of it anymore without all that. The Dukes remain pure.
I watched the Dukes every week and had my own General Lee Hot Wheels that would race over the Hazzard County that was the kitchen counters. I wanted to be a Duke Boy. It never occurred to me to be Daisy; she just didn't have the fun. She never slid over the hood of the car. I tried that at 9 and nearly killed myself. And then nearly got killed again when my mom found out what I tried to do.
Duke boys win. They at least simply did a bad remake and didn't retoractively add crap to the classic shows. George Lucas killed Star Wars for me, him and Hayden Christensen. I love Star Wars but can't think of it anymore without all that. The Dukes remain pure.
For all you poor demented souls who have chosen the Dukes over the Darth, I am burning candles at the alter of New Hope. Such is on display at my site:
http://lobojosden.blogspot.com/
This is all I can do for you. To futher redeem yourselfs you must first repent to Yoda!
http://lobojosden.blogspot.com/
This is all I can do for you. To futher redeem yourselfs you must first repent to Yoda!
Drlobojo, missed an opportunity you did to like Yoda speak, hmmmmmm ...
Dukes had song and narration by Waylon; Star Wars has songs by the Max Rebo and floating exposition in space. Which is cooler?
Dukes had song and narration by Waylon; Star Wars has songs by the Max Rebo and floating exposition in space. Which is cooler?
Hapa,
It's always going to be Waylon. It's always going to be the Dukes, too.
Dr. Lobo said, "My friend then you are culturally deprived."
Wow, what spaceship are you living in where science fiction is culture?
I'm not saying "Dukes" was culture. Far from it. But I ain't pretendin' flashing a light saber or wearing curly buns on the side of one's head or talkin' to beepin' robots or flying with a Wookie is culture.
Hey, Carrie Fisher is a beautiful woman. Was drop-dead 30 years ago.
But Princess Leia ain't culture, and it ain't my cup o' tea.
It's always going to be Waylon. It's always going to be the Dukes, too.
Dr. Lobo said, "My friend then you are culturally deprived."
Wow, what spaceship are you living in where science fiction is culture?
I'm not saying "Dukes" was culture. Far from it. But I ain't pretendin' flashing a light saber or wearing curly buns on the side of one's head or talkin' to beepin' robots or flying with a Wookie is culture.
Hey, Carrie Fisher is a beautiful woman. Was drop-dead 30 years ago.
But Princess Leia ain't culture, and it ain't my cup o' tea.
Oh, they were both pop culture.
Star Wars was high-pop, Shakespearian.
The Dukes were low-pop, comic book-type characters. I'm sort of a caricature mysel, so I like that sort of thing.
Star Wars was high-pop, Shakespearian.
The Dukes were low-pop, comic book-type characters. I'm sort of a caricature mysel, so I like that sort of thing.
Teditor,I'm lighting a nother candle for you. The only buns Leia is wearing in that slave outfit are the ones just below than thin little belt holding up that lttle metal bikini.
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