Tuesday, April 03, 2007
Obama of Nazareth
What *did* Jesus look like?
Being a Palestinian, he probably was dark-skinned, but not "black" -- sort of like Barack Obama! Coffee with cream.
He sure wasn't the blond-haired, blue-eyed Jesus we imagined when I was little (although, admittedly, in the images I saw, he looked more like John Lennon with his beard trimmed and hair washed, sans little round glasses).
I think Jesus looked like Max Klinger on "M*A*S*H," and the Apostle Paul, for some reason, I imagine as Danny DeVito. Judas? Lucious Malfoy!
In your imagination, what does Jesus look like? God the Father? The Apostles?
From The Associated Press via MSNBC
He wears Jesus' robes and a neon blue halo, looks like Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and is causing a stir at a Chicago art school.
Read all about it.
--ER
Being a Palestinian, he probably was dark-skinned, but not "black" -- sort of like Barack Obama! Coffee with cream.
He sure wasn't the blond-haired, blue-eyed Jesus we imagined when I was little (although, admittedly, in the images I saw, he looked more like John Lennon with his beard trimmed and hair washed, sans little round glasses).
I think Jesus looked like Max Klinger on "M*A*S*H," and the Apostle Paul, for some reason, I imagine as Danny DeVito. Judas? Lucious Malfoy!
In your imagination, what does Jesus look like? God the Father? The Apostles?
From The Associated Press via MSNBC
He wears Jesus' robes and a neon blue halo, looks like Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and is causing a stir at a Chicago art school.
Read all about it.
--ER
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You are so funny. Max Klinger...lol
Lucious Malfoy...oh thats a real good one. Hmm...I think Jesus looked like some hassidic rabbi we might see in NYC in the diamond district. Sis
Lucious Malfoy...oh thats a real good one. Hmm...I think Jesus looked like some hassidic rabbi we might see in NYC in the diamond district. Sis
In Our Image
pretty christ
is nice
to the EYE
Helps You
look forward to seeing him
when you die
is s/he black white or brown
?
depends
on your Location
Politics
your part of town
STRONG Jesus
that's good too
fighting wrongs
and protecting
Serving
YOU
Secret is
Mary's boy,
black as a midnight
in a coal mine
shaft, is a
deaf dumb and blind
guy
paraplegic
wheelchair and all
BUT seriously
acording to the buzz
the MESSiah
sure can play
a real mean pinball
---William Sandia
pretty christ
is nice
to the EYE
Helps You
look forward to seeing him
when you die
is s/he black white or brown
?
depends
on your Location
Politics
your part of town
STRONG Jesus
that's good too
fighting wrongs
and protecting
Serving
YOU
Secret is
Mary's boy,
black as a midnight
in a coal mine
shaft, is a
deaf dumb and blind
guy
paraplegic
wheelchair and all
BUT seriously
acording to the buzz
the MESSiah
sure can play
a real mean pinball
---William Sandia
I always had a pretty typical mental picture of jesus....but god, on the other hand is another story:
I was born in '75 and remember Carter and the Iran hostage crisis vividly. My dad always told me that Carter was the guy in charge and at some point I started to envision God as looking like Carter. I never thought they were the same guy, but I thought they looked similar. God was sort of a tall version of Carter bumping his head on the heavens. (I also thought Mother Nature looked like Mrs. Garrett from the Facts of Life. Was I allowed to watch too much TV?)
This is especially funny considering I was raised to vilify Carter and embrace all that was Reagan. Then I grew up and I can see that, latest book or not, Carter has made better use of being a former president than nearly any of his predecessors.
I was born in '75 and remember Carter and the Iran hostage crisis vividly. My dad always told me that Carter was the guy in charge and at some point I started to envision God as looking like Carter. I never thought they were the same guy, but I thought they looked similar. God was sort of a tall version of Carter bumping his head on the heavens. (I also thought Mother Nature looked like Mrs. Garrett from the Facts of Life. Was I allowed to watch too much TV?)
This is especially funny considering I was raised to vilify Carter and embrace all that was Reagan. Then I grew up and I can see that, latest book or not, Carter has made better use of being a former president than nearly any of his predecessors.
Howdy, Henry.
That. Is. A. Hoot.
When I was little bitty and first becoming God-conscious, I didn't have *any* image of Her -- hee hee, or Him -- as a humanoid. I just imagined light and maybe clouds or fog or something.
Real soon, though, I picked up Michelangelo's version -- which I think has done God a big disservice over the years.
That. Is. A. Hoot.
When I was little bitty and first becoming God-conscious, I didn't have *any* image of Her -- hee hee, or Him -- as a humanoid. I just imagined light and maybe clouds or fog or something.
Real soon, though, I picked up Michelangelo's version -- which I think has done God a big disservice over the years.
Now God.
That's a different image.
William Blake had a good image.
www.hofesh.org.il/.../03/01_breshit/1.html
That's a different image.
William Blake had a good image.
www.hofesh.org.il/.../03/01_breshit/1.html
Didn't Jesus also say that long hair on a man was shameful?? If so, he probably didn't have long hair. Oh ya, he probably wasn't as skinny and puny as a lot of paintings make him out to be after all, he was a carpenter and was able to drag a huge wooden cross a long distance up a hill. We don't have many Jewish carpenters around here but the Polish carpenters are all pretty beefy.
Yo, Toad.
That was the Apostle Paul, I think, that said the thing about long hair -- and who knows what he was on about.
That was the Apostle Paul, I think, that said the thing about long hair -- and who knows what he was on about.
Does it really matter what He looked like? I know what He looked like to John...
"...clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; and his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters." Rev 1:13-15
At least, that's what John saw. But if I had to point to anyone, I'd say He looks closer to the figure in the Shroud of Turin than He does to Jamie Farr.
"...clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; and his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters." Rev 1:13-15
At least, that's what John saw. But if I had to point to anyone, I'd say He looks closer to the figure in the Shroud of Turin than He does to Jamie Farr.
Ha! No, it doesn't matter what He looks(ed) like. But if He looks(ed) like the image reflecred in the Shroud of Turin, then He looks more like John Lennon that Jamie Farr, don't He?
On another hand, I'd say the dreams *I've* had are about as valid, when it comes to imagining the appearance of the Lord, as John's were, and I'd repeat: Martin Luther himself actually thought the Revelation might have better been left out of the Canon.
On another hand, I'd say the dreams *I've* had are about as valid, when it comes to imagining the appearance of the Lord, as John's were, and I'd repeat: Martin Luther himself actually thought the Revelation might have better been left out of the Canon.
Every man has an opinion, but name recognition has little bearing of any given opinion's weight-- Or validity. So Martin Luther thought Revelation was an ill fit... so what? I happen to disagree... again, so what? The fact is Revelation clearly ties everything together from Genesis to Jude (which to my mind is the oddest of books... parenthetical even... kinda like a Gerry Rafferty "Stuck-in-the-middle-with-you" transitional between Church-age inception and Church-age conclusion), but I wouldn't call John's vision a 'dream'... there's room for a little literalism in Revelation when you consider that much of what he was shown was completely out of the realm of 1st century understanding, in terms of technology, and the language of the day's ability to describe it. There's room for SOME literalism... in the sense of 'some of what Revelation describes is not Allegorical or Figurative'. Besides which, visions and dreams are two different animals.
You think the image in the shroud looks like Lennon? It's closer to Jamie Farr than Lennon, IMO.
You think the image in the shroud looks like Lennon? It's closer to Jamie Farr than Lennon, IMO.
Opinions are, as they say, like arseholes: Everybody has one, yes.
Here's mine:
"Revelation clearly" is an oxymoron. The Revelation is clear about nothing, unless you've already decided, or been "instructed," on what it means. Dismiss Luther? OK. Then dismiss the Reformation with it -- and you're just a Catholic who hasn't been confirmed and doesn';t know his religion. (I am being extreme.)
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Here's mine:
"Revelation clearly" is an oxymoron. The Revelation is clear about nothing, unless you've already decided, or been "instructed," on what it means. Dismiss Luther? OK. Then dismiss the Reformation with it -- and you're just a Catholic who hasn't been confirmed and doesn';t know his religion. (I am being extreme.)
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