Tuesday, November 07, 2006
Jesus, D-Nazareth
It's a joke!
Just for Nick and ELashley and the handful of other righties who darken my door from time to time!
Vote early and vote often! May the best party win!
--ER
P.S.: Jesus is a liberal. :-)
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Actually, you're both wrong. If anything, Jesus is Totalitarian.
I'm happy to darken your door once more.
I'm happy to darken your door once more.
I saw a picture in the paper the other day of Texas Demo guv candidate Chris Bell being given a T-shirt by Baylor University students. It said, "Baylor Democrats. Jesus Didn't Ride in on an Elephant!"
:-)
:-)
# posted by 
: 4:53 PM
: 4:53 PM
EL, how you get that Jesus was anything close to a totalitarian is beyond me.
He said, "My way."
His followers are the ones who've said, and continue to say, "His way or the highway!"
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He said, "My way."
His followers are the ones who've said, and continue to say, "His way or the highway!"
:-)
Yes, and Jesus's was an invitation, not a command.
Does this sound like Him?
"Of, relating to, being, or imposing a form of government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized." That's totalitarism.
Perhaps what EL was referring to was the by-and-by -- but I odn't even see *that* as totalitarian.
Does this sound like Him?
"Of, relating to, being, or imposing a form of government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized." That's totalitarism.
Perhaps what EL was referring to was the by-and-by -- but I odn't even see *that* as totalitarian.
"And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."
It should be noted that when men begin to beat swords into plowshares it is a forced agenda of peace. Christ will be King, and He will brook no opposition. None.
The only time you'll find true 'peace, peace, happy, sharey' is AFTER the last judgment.
It should be noted that when men begin to beat swords into plowshares it is a forced agenda of peace. Christ will be King, and He will brook no opposition. None.
The only time you'll find true 'peace, peace, happy, sharey' is AFTER the last judgment.
I think this is a radical, and wrong, interpretation, and it speaks to the heart of the difference between right-wing Christianity and liberal Christianity:
"forced agenda of peace"
I think people will be overwhelmed by God's love and will *want* to, not be *forced* to! Persuaded! Not *forced*!
No wonder y'all, in the face of so much genuine goodness in the world, in the the face of God's love and grace, in the face of the emergence of the kingdom in hearts that respond, rather than minds that agree -- it's no wonder you see so much wrong with the world and are always so read for a fight!
Your savior is a warrior! Mine is a reconciler.
"forced agenda of peace"
I think people will be overwhelmed by God's love and will *want* to, not be *forced* to! Persuaded! Not *forced*!
No wonder y'all, in the face of so much genuine goodness in the world, in the the face of God's love and grace, in the face of the emergence of the kingdom in hearts that respond, rather than minds that agree -- it's no wonder you see so much wrong with the world and are always so read for a fight!
Your savior is a warrior! Mine is a reconciler.
There are reasons Martin Luther, uber Reformer, thought Revelation should've been left out of the Canon.
From the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod:
An excerpt from Luther's earlier preface to Revelation: "About this book of the Revelation of St. John, I leave everyone free to hold his own opinions. I would not have anyone bound to my opinion or judgment. I say what I feel. I miss more than one thing in this book, and it makes me consider it to be neither apostolic nor prophetic.
"First and foremost, the apostles do not deal with visions, but prophesy in clear and plain words, as do Peter and Paul, and Christ in the gospel.... I can in no way detect that the Holy Spirit produced it...."
In 1530, Luther revised the Preface, but had not really changed his view regarding Revelation:
"...Some of the ancient fathers held that it was not the work of St. John, the Apostle.... For our part, we still share this doubt. By that, however, no one should be prevented from reading this as the work of St. John the apostle, or of whomever else he chooses...."
An excerpt from Luther's earlier preface to Revelation: "About this book of the Revelation of St. John, I leave everyone free to hold his own opinions. I would not have anyone bound to my opinion or judgment. I say what I feel. I miss more than one thing in this book, and it makes me consider it to be neither apostolic nor prophetic.
"First and foremost, the apostles do not deal with visions, but prophesy in clear and plain words, as do Peter and Paul, and Christ in the gospel.... I can in no way detect that the Holy Spirit produced it...."
In 1530, Luther revised the Preface, but had not really changed his view regarding Revelation:
"...Some of the ancient fathers held that it was not the work of St. John, the Apostle.... For our part, we still share this doubt. By that, however, no one should be prevented from reading this as the work of St. John the apostle, or of whomever else he chooses...."
This has been the split since the days of the Northern priesthood and the Southern priesthood. (Nothing to do with the U.S. Civil War, by the way...)
El said:
"The only time you'll find true 'peace, peace, happy, sharey' is AFTER the last judgment."
That wouldn't be true. You are welcome to come by my church community anytime and experience peace, happiness and sharing here and now.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.
Humanity's propensity to failure and mean nastiness is not an excuse for us to not work towards that kingdom.
"The only time you'll find true 'peace, peace, happy, sharey' is AFTER the last judgment."
That wouldn't be true. You are welcome to come by my church community anytime and experience peace, happiness and sharing here and now.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven.
Humanity's propensity to failure and mean nastiness is not an excuse for us to not work towards that kingdom.
I just don't understand how peopel who've grace poured all over them can be so negative, and bitter and fearful and jumpy all the time.
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