Thursday, July 13, 2006

 

Mortar BORED!

I'm gettin' an itchy brain again. This December will make 2 years since I finished a master's degree in history. What next?

Law school? (What I'm thinking about is the Native American Legal Resource Center.)

Seminary? (What I'm thinking about
is a Certificate in Graduate Theological Studies, perhaps an M.Div.)

University of Oklahoma? (What I'm thinking about is a Ph.D. in history or a Ph.D. in Sociocultural Anthropology.)

One of my bosses told me he thought I'd probably do the least damage (to society, he meant) by going to seminary. What do y'all think?

Starting in August, I'm going full steam ahead again on getting my book manuscript expanded and broadened and resubmitted for publication, as directed.

Come 2007, I want to be back in school ...

--ER

Comments:
Depends on why you want to do it.

Is it for the love of learning or is it a means to an end?
 
Have you considered and broader field than History? A doctorate in History will lead you into endless crevass.
Given your wide rage of interest I would suggest looking into a doctorate in American Studies.
see: http://www.georgetown.edu/crossroads/asainfo.html
Georgetown, the U of Virgina, Yale, GWU, etc etc. offer doctorates in American Studies.
Not only could you teach in America but an American Studies Doctorate is especcially attractive to institutions abroad.

American Studies would encompass all that you have described as being intered in. Check it out.
 
The Drlobo apperently doesn't use speellcheek.
 
Liam, it's all about research and writing. I can do the classroom. But it's all about researching and writing. :-)

The theology studies could aid me in my interest in Native American history and what the eggheads call "the Eurpoeans encounter." Because it was the churches that led "civilization" efforts.

Drlobo, the anthropology doctorate would be a natural extension and broadenign of my history masters, especially regarding native studies. "American studies," I've considered, but history Ph.D's tend to look down on it. Not so anthropology.

The main point about the options I listed is that each is within driving distance of where I live. Dr. ER and I wind up living somewhere else, that would change the whole realm of possibilities!

BTW, Drlobo, I had lunch at the Hungry Frog awhile ago -- just happened to be over there at 12:30 p.m. Great chicken-fried steak sandwich!
 
"One of my bosses told me he thought I'd probably do the least damage (to society, he meant) by going to seminary."

I dunno. I think some of the folk doing a good bit of damage to the US are semgrads (my wife excluded, of course. She's one of the GOOD grads).
 
Yer right, Dan. Phillips is a nice liberal seminary, though: Disciples, UCC, Methodists and Copperative Baptist Fellowshippers, mainly.
 
You could enroll at the new United Methodist seminary at OCU. Spare yourself the drive to Tulsa -- and Phillips teaches many of its classes at OCU anyway.
 
Huh? There's a new seiminary at OCU? I'll check into it.

But I likes everything I've read and heard about Phillips -- except that it's in Tulsa. (Non-Oklahomans: 110 miles from where I live.)
 
Gah! $710 per credit hour at OCU for grad courses.

Dude. Phillips is $425.
 
Hmm. Well, at least today that price difference will buy you all the gas you'd need. Maybe not next semester...
 
So it will cost you $13,500 in tuition alone for a Doc. of Div. from Phillips and $22,720 for the same from OCU. Let's see, 32 semester hours plus or minus, at 6 hours per semester part time will take roughly 6 semesters with Summers off, that's 3 years. Now it is 110 miles to Phillips they meet once a week so it would be about 110 x 2 x 36 trips ='s 7920 miles at 16 mpg on the truck is about 800 gallons at say $3.50 per gallon equals about $2,800 for gas and 660 hours of driving. Now OCU in OKC is what an extra 20 miles round trip from work let's say, they meet twice a week at 40 miles X 36 ='s 1440 miles at <16 mpg let's say a 100 gallons of gas or $350 gas bucks. Plus Books Plus fees, you'll love those fees. There's fees for concerts you can't go to, fees for a gymn you'll never use, fees for a parking place you can't find, fees for a library that doesn't have the books you need, a technology fee, a health fee, a sickness fee, a computer access fee, and so forth...
Would it be cheaper to have a mid-life crisis by just buying an H-3 and get it over with? Then spend your money left over on trips to places to write about...
But that's the redneck...
your talking the erudite...
Go for it dude!
 
I love story problems. Especially where there's no conclusion!
 
For what its worth, ER, I think you should go the law route, especially if you specialize in Native American law. First, because it would add another dimension to your knowledge. Second, because if you ever get tired of journalism, it's easier to imagine you doing something with that degree than with the other options.
 
Thanks, Kiki.

Dang practical considerations anyway! ;-)
 
Ok, now I do not want to step on
toes. If the title is important. I
realize it looks good on a resume,
and could get you more income.

But my thought if you are just
looking at, keeping your mind
busy. Why not just get the books
and study at home. It is alot
cheaper. But I can see your love
of the class room.
 
It's not the title as much as the credential, which are similar, but not the same thing.

Oh, I am worthless as self-motivation. Gotta have a grade hanging over me, or something!

And oh, again. It ain't income that drives me. I make more now than I would as a new professor, or even a seasoned professor at a small college.
 
ER,

I think I've got your solution: Take one dollar to your nearest Powerball retailer. Gamble a buck. If your ticket comes in, you can do whatever the hell you want. You can take the time to write that book, then you can be your own publisher.

Then you can be my publisher. :-)
 
ER,
I got an M.Div. from Phillips in 1982 when it was still at Enid. More than the location has changed, I'm sure, but it was a terrific experience. The GCTS program sounds good to me.

I also have a M.A. in U S History from UConn & taught intro courses for eight years up cher in the Yankee wilderness.

God's peace be wit cha and yore family, who may need it the most
Rev. JohnieB
 
Whoa. Cool, Rev. Thanks for stoppin' by!
 
Oh, ha ha Teditor. :-)
 
Maybe you should go to a tech school and study up on HVAC.
 
Now that's funny, Trix.
 
Learning does'nt have to be 'project-oriented' as some folks have said to you.

I know your're serious, but I hope you will go with law and/or history. Stay away from the seminary, unless you want some deep questions answered that years of prayer hasn't given you.

I respect all your considerationa, and I thank you for the chance to comment. You write so very well, and you have a keen sense of humor.
 
Thank you, Anon.
 
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