Tuesday, September 13, 2005

 

Hell freezes over

BC-APNewsAlert
WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush said Tuesday that he takes “full responsibility” for what went wrong with the government response to Hurricane Katrina.

Comments:
Meaning: "now ya'll just don't take it out on John Roberts."
 
It's about time. Wouldn't it be great if the state and local government did the same? Then maybe we could quit all this bickering and start putting all the pieces back together.

RebelAngel
 
RebAngel:

YES!

Includin' the media -- and includin' my own self. I lost it.

My politics and faith are still reaffirmed, however. A little to the left with both.

ER
 
We knew you liked to argue. That’s why we rode you hard and put you away wet!
 
It is said that ol' ER would argue with a fence post.

It is said.

:-)

--ER
 
Press, it was fun while it lasted. Hope no hard feelings. You weren't the only one feeling no pain last Saturday night.
 
Well, it'll come 'round again! But it wadn't the Dickel talking on this end. There's a reason "redneck" is part of the title of this here blog. I am like a turtle: I'll bite down and not let go until it tater-wagons.

Extra Redneck Point to anyone who correctly identifies "tater-wagon."

--ER
 
I was surprised, and credit where credit's due.

Where RebelAngel wonders if the state and local governments will do the same, I wonder what Bush's defenders who were saying it *wasn't* his responsibility will say now that he himself says it was...
 
B, the same thought crossed my mind. I figured crow would be tough enough for 'em, without extra Erudite Redneck Gravy. A dash of your Bitch Bitters, though, is another thing. :-)

--ER
 
Maybe his taking responsibility is the end of that pronouncement that he'd lead a full investigation into the response.

Or has he done that already and come to this conclusion?

Or will the investigation conclude that Bush was NOT responsible, and that way W gets to appease BOTH sides?

There is nothing simple about this.
 
"Tater-wagon" must be Mid-Western Redneck although I'll concede it could be Texas Redneck, as they are a breed unto themselves. It ain't in the Southern Redneck lexicon.
 
"I wonder what Bush's defenders who were saying it *wasn't* his responsibility will say now that he himself says it was..."

Well, speaking for myself, I say way to go, Mr. President! It just goes to show what I've been saying all the time. Bush has integrity.

Now, it will be interesting to see if Gov. Blanco, Mayor Nagin, and Sen. Landriue will show the same intestinal fortitude and admit they were incompetent as well.
 
Well, it IS Mama ER Redneck, but that's no reason to go callin' me names like "Midwestern," boy.

Oklahoma -- most of it anyway, my part of it, for sure -- is the by-God South. And if you insist, I will either instruct you, or direct you to, sources, on the truth. :-)

--ER
 
kak·is·toc·ra·cy (kk-stkr-s, käk-) KEY

NOUN:
pl. kak·is·toc·ra·cies

Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.
 
I know this isn't the real tater wagon explanation, but my granddaddy once told me a story about a couple that was somewhere visiting, and one or the other of 'em started telling this story about a wagonload of (something) going by. The other said, no, it was tomatoes. And on and on, the details being corrected by the second one. They finally got into an argument, a real heated one, over what was in the back of the wagon. Finally, they just busted out laughin' at themselves. Ever after that, if one or the other wanted to end an argument, he/she'd say, "well, it was tomatoes."
 
"Bush has integrity." My God, man, how naive can you be?

One admission of fault after five years in office is not "integrity." Look, Rove told him he has nothing to lose by admitting fault -- because he doesn't have to run for office again. But by admitting fault, he will help all the other Republicans who believe personal responsibility applies to coloreds or poor people only.
 
Tater-wagons=Thunders
 
Frenzied wins the coveteed Redneck Point -- although the context os the sentence gave it away. :-)

More etymological and cultural-memory-type explanation, please. Anyone.

--ER
 
Bring it on Mid-western Redneck. I still got plenty!!!!!!!!
 
Well, now you're just changing the rules in the middle of the game! Ha!

--* "Tater wagon." What Mama used to tell me was makin' the scary noises in the sky when it was stormin' when I was a little bitty ER: a potato wagon, as in a noisy wagonload of taters: thunder. I'll bet she got that from her own mama!

From Erudite Redneck archives, December 6, 2004.
;)
 
Tater wagon: Started as an expression from German immigrants. Used to describe the sound of thunder rolling across the land as a rain storm approached. A favorite sound of rural children, especially in summer.
 
Now dang it, Frenzied, I didn't change no rules, I just asked for documentation -- and you found it. I'm impressed, and humbled. :-)

--ER
 
I think Anon. must be drinkin' agin -- he seems to think he is 10 feet tall and bullet-proof. :-)

The only dadgum thing Midwestern about me is my cousins in Fremont, Nebraska.

--ER
 
Excellent, Trixie, and there are tater wagons rattlin' right this instant, even as I type, and Dr. ER the weather watcher says the wind will be here any minute, so I am goin' 10-7, y'all.

--ER
 
Excellent, Trixie, and there are tater wagons rattlin' right this instant, even as I type, and Dr. ER the weather watcher says the wind will be here any minute, so I am goin' 10-7, y'all.

--ER
 
No offense ER. I guess I don't think of Okies as bein' Suth'r'n. Of course, having been born and raised in Florida, I get the same reaction from folks in AL, MS, GA, and the Carolinas. When most folks think of Florida, they think Palm Beach, Miami, the beach, etc. The funny thing is, being in the panhandle, just south of the Alabama line, we're considered L.A. by the rest of Floridia (that's Lower Alabama). I always make a point to remind those more northern Southerners that OUR capital didn't fall during The War. 'Course my people weren't in FL at the time - we can thank that thug, Sherman, for making the relocation possible.
 
Beggin' your pardon, but Okies is Southern, sur! :) We sure ain't Yankees! There be a fair number of things that ole ER and I cross words on, but we agree firmly on that!
 
Thank ya', thank ya. :)
 
Rem, Tech and I are from the same town in eastern Oklahoma, which is most defininitely Southern, in culture and history. Now, it was Midwesterners who stole -- I mean, settled land in what is now western Oklahoma, with the land runs and all.

Here's you some readin' on the subject of the Civil War in Indian Territory (basically everything east of Interstate 35 in present Oklahoma:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~itcivwar/civilwar.htm

:-)

--ER
 
Doggone tater wagons! They woke me up! Looks like E.R. mighta had his sleep interrupted as well. Between the close lighting and LOUD thunder, some strong winds and heavy, heavy rains -- oh, and a cricket in my room somewhere -- there is no sleep in Trixieland tonight.
 
Oklahoma, my god, no wonder. That damn Mike Brown is from there. Probably a cousin of ER. What am I saying, they marry their cousins down there.
 
Yellow alert. Phasers on stun.

I promise you that if you are trying to piss me off, you will succeed. I can take snarkiness and cuttin' up. But I'm just letting you know now, that if you try to push my buttons, you will, and we'll get into a row, and you will get assholier and assholier until you get totally out of line, and I will delete you. And it will all have been a waste of time. So just stop.

--ER
 
Thank you, mayor. It's a start...

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin was asked on ABC's "Good Morning America" if he took responsibility for the city's response.

"I'm going to be a man about this. Whatever I did, whatever I could have done better, I'm going to stand up and history will judge me accordingly," he said in an interview broadcast Wednesday.

"But let's make sure that as we analyze what Ray Nagin as mayor did, let's look at what everybody in authority (did) so that this never happens again in this country."

I'm thoroughly sick of the Gov. of New Orleans, however. I can't believe she lashed out at the slowness of the body recovery goin' on and yet refused FEMA's request to take it over a week ago. This is not a normal duty of FEMA, true, but why would she refuse help, then accept it a week later, and then criticize the federal government's response? She's got to go.

ER: Man, you take a lot of crap. I'm torn between being impressed by your restraint from using the delete button and wishing you'd use it a little more. :)

RebelAngel
 
RebelAngel, I agree.

Let the record show:

ER is calling for the head of a Democratic governor.

--ER
 
ER,

Your link seemed to indicate an Indian culture and history, not so much a Southern one.

To you and Tech, I think the movie Days of Thunder sums my feelings up best. When told that Cole Trickle (the main character played by Tom Cruise) was from California, Harry (the crew chief played by Robert Duval) says, "He's a yankee?" The team owner (Randy Quaid) replies, "If you're from California, you're not a Yankee. You're not really anything." Just replace California with Oklahoma.
 
Besides, a true Southerner would refer to The War for Southern Independence. By referring to it as The Civil War, you perpetrate the lie that the North has been teaching for well over a century now.
 
Rem, you are so completely wrong that I shudder to think of the carnage that ER will now inflict upon your hide. As a Southern gentleman, I can almost pity you ... but not a lot! :)

Days of Thunder, by the way, is a terrible movie that in no way depicted the true reality of NASCAR or any other racing, but I will leave ER to savage this, also, and return to my own blog, ever more grateful to my polite and decent commenters.
 
You know I'm just bustin' your chops, right?

At least the SCV let you in. I was told that because I was adopted (at birth) I didn't qualify for memebership. Screw 'em.
 
No, no, if you want to go that way, it was the War of Northern Aggression.

And you surely jest. What the heck part of "signed treaties with" and "fought for" the Confederacy do you not understand? What part of "delegate to Richmond" do you not get?

Either you didn't read the link, or yer funning with me. Hell's bells, dude, they don't call southeastern Oklahoma "Little Dixie" because it's quaint.

--ER
 
We refer to it as the War Between the States.
 
ER, if you don't thrash him, I will be ashamed of you and yours and turn my face when we next meet! :)
 
LOL. Chops busted.

Neck losing reddish hue now.

:-)

Oh, since the neo-secesh types have damn near taken over the SCV, you ain't missin' much. It's not about heritage and history now. It's about current politics and internal squabbling.

I think my local camp is going to vote to secede this month. Won't be the first time that "withdrawing fellowship" was tried first to avoid bloodshed.

--ER
 
I'll hold your coat ... :)
 
Well, I was polishin' up my canin' cane. But he may live. :-)

--ER
 
Tech,

Days of Thunder is a pretty entertaining movie. It's not a true representation of racing, but then what do expect from Hollywood - especially from a time when NASCAR was still just a Southern thing. Now it's so corporatized and watered down that it turns my stomach to watch. Shoot, Earnhart would still be alive if he was racin' to win instead of concerning himself with his 'team'. I think ER should start a NASCAR post and we could discuss it a little more.
 
I do have this idea for SASCAR:

The Southern Association of Stock Car Auto Racing.

The remnant of the Southern faithful should just secede and form their own outfit. You know there was an ill-fated "driver's strike" once, don't you? Seems like it was just before Talladega in 1971 or so ...

--ER
 
Apparently a good number of people find Tom Cruise entertaining. I am unable to understand why. I am not a fan of his political views or his religion or his acting ability where his range runs from all the way from A to A. Not being gay or female also blinds me to his doubtless good looks

However, on a more even note, I did enjoy Jerry Maguire. Oh, and Far and Away was an excellent movie.
 
So, would SASCAR actually run stock cars or would they run the same crap that NASCAR runs? At the very least, would the production model and the race model both be required to use rear wheel drive? Could we finally get rid of restrictor plates at Daytona and Talladega? Would SASCAR push its first big-money sponsor out the door? Would drivers be allowed to grow facial hair again or would everybody have to have that 'just back from the salon, look' still? Would you employ any more road races and keep the short tracks or would SASCAR push for all super speedways also? A limit on the number of cars a team owner could have?

And no, I didn't know (or have long since forgotton) of a driver's strike in '71.
 
Tom Cruise is insane.
 
Naw, Tom Cruise is a hack. Duval steals the show in this movie. He reminds me of an old uncle of mine. I also like Quaid, though Days didn't really fit him. The bit characters are also pretty good.
 
In order:

Stock cars.

Yes, since speed would be already be curtailed.

Take the money; keep the integrity of racin'.

Facial hair OK.

No more road races. No more super speedways. More short tracks.

Two cars per team, max.

--ER
 
I gotta quit taking the day off. I could have helped stir the shit.
 
Hey, Rem, I was off by two years. The drivers strike was in '69, led by Richard Petty hisself, at the first race at Talladega.

Here's a link that talks about it:

http://insiderracingnews.com/CB/042904.html

--ER
 
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