Wednesday, July 20, 2005
JFK on God's frozen chosen
"We have all made mistakes. But Dante tells us that divine justice weighs the sins of the cold-blooded and the sins of the warm-hearted on different scales. Better the occasional faults of a party living in the spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a party frozen in the ice of its own indifference."
--JFK, quoted in Garrison Keillor, Homegrown Democrat: A Few Plain Thoughts from the Heart of America (New York: Viking, 2004), 69-70.
--JFK, quoted in Garrison Keillor, Homegrown Democrat: A Few Plain Thoughts from the Heart of America (New York: Viking, 2004), 69-70.
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It doesn't surprise me that JFK was reading the wrong book with regards to sins or "occasional faults." In this nation of "everyone is equal" it's good to know that we'll all be judged on the same scales, by the same God, all deserving of the same sentence of eternity in hell for such "sins of the cold-blooded and the sins of the warm-hearted." Thank God for Christ's atoning sacrifice on the cross or this once cold-blooded, unbelieving sinner would be frying.
# posted by 
: 10:38 AM
: 10:38 AM
Premise: The cold-hearted, for the sake of this argument, have not met Christ, and sin.
Premise: The warm-hearted, for the sake of this argument, have met Christ, and sin.
Conclusion: All have sinned.
Caveat: The warm-hearted, having met Christ, are not condemned to hell, but their sins are still judged -- on a different scale.
The saved will all be present for the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Some of us will be eatin' at the kids' table, though.
Premise: The warm-hearted, for the sake of this argument, have met Christ, and sin.
Conclusion: All have sinned.
Caveat: The warm-hearted, having met Christ, are not condemned to hell, but their sins are still judged -- on a different scale.
The saved will all be present for the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Some of us will be eatin' at the kids' table, though.
Same Laws broken.
Same Eternal God offended.
Same Judge.
Same scale judged with.
Same verdict.
Same sentence.
Different Person was executed tin the place of the believer.
God's wrath, anger, judgement, and punishment was poured upon His Sinless Son, who willingly laid down His life for His children, taking their place on the cross. God didn't pull any punches for the Son whom He loved. He won't pull any punches for those who reject Christ, either. The same scale is used to judge all sin. It has to, or Christ's work on the cross is a moot point.
See:
Hebrews 9:16-28, Hebrews 10:11-18, Romans 6:17-23 and 8:1-11, and Ephesians 2: 1-11
Yes, The kids' table is more fun!! Can you imagine it in Heaven? :)
Same Eternal God offended.
Same Judge.
Same scale judged with.
Same verdict.
Same sentence.
Different Person was executed tin the place of the believer.
God's wrath, anger, judgement, and punishment was poured upon His Sinless Son, who willingly laid down His life for His children, taking their place on the cross. God didn't pull any punches for the Son whom He loved. He won't pull any punches for those who reject Christ, either. The same scale is used to judge all sin. It has to, or Christ's work on the cross is a moot point.
See:
Hebrews 9:16-28, Hebrews 10:11-18, Romans 6:17-23 and 8:1-11, and Ephesians 2: 1-11
Yes, The kids' table is more fun!! Can you imagine it in Heaven? :)
# posted by : 1:29 PM
: 1:29 PM
OK. I'l try a standard subject-verb-object approach.
You are right.
But I am talking about judgment of unsaved, which is one thing, and the judgment of the saved, which does involve a different scale.
I argue that if one is cold-blooded, then one is unsaved, by definition.
I argue further that only those who have met Christ CAN be "warm-hearted."
I don't vouch for the following in its entirety, but it has the gist of what I mean by post-salvation judgment and the different scale I'm talking about:
http://cgg.org/index.cfm/page/literature.showResource/CT/ARTB/k/514
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You are right.
But I am talking about judgment of unsaved, which is one thing, and the judgment of the saved, which does involve a different scale.
I argue that if one is cold-blooded, then one is unsaved, by definition.
I argue further that only those who have met Christ CAN be "warm-hearted."
I don't vouch for the following in its entirety, but it has the gist of what I mean by post-salvation judgment and the different scale I'm talking about:
http://cgg.org/index.cfm/page/literature.showResource/CT/ARTB/k/514
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