Tuesday, May 03, 2005

 

Tough ho to throw

Hoot ahead, from the New York Daily News:

"OMG! Arch-conservative Ann Coulter is totally dating a Democrat on the down-low."

This is hootish on soooo many levels. What a ho -- and I mean about her thinkin' and writin'. She can date whoever she damn well pleases. Coulter is, after all, uno babe-o caliente.

--ER

Comments:
LOL--I guess that makes her a real expert on how to talk to a liberal, eh? Hehe.

She's not the first, though, Mary Matlin is married to big left-winger James Carville. There sure seem to be happy. :)
 
Bah. Ann Coulter is the bride of Satan. No, really she is. And I'm disturbed she would cheat on His Nibs. There will be hell to pay!
 
She's a caliente babe?????????

Huh.

Sorry, I know that's bitchy, I couldn't help it.
 
Bah-Humbug! I still like her. :)
 
Yo, Dr. B,

I am a boy. She is a girl. A good-lookin' one.

I know that's rednecky. I couldn't help it. :-)
 
Shoot, Ann's only doing this to get some new book titles and/or new country songs outta the deal:

1. How to F*CK a young buck Liberal if You Must
2. Go play with your guitar and don't fret about me
3. Move a little to the RIGHT, you idiot!
4. Drilling Olive Oyl in Anwar
5. You beg for it, I decide
6. My thong ith better than Monica'th thong
7. I didn't burn my bra, I just don't need one
8. Reason: He's young and hung (like a goog GOP elephant)
9. He's a little bit country, I'm a little bit sad and old
10. NASCAR dads wouldn't have me, so I'm settling on you
 
Darnit, typo in above comment on #8: He's young and hung (like a GOOD GOP elephant)
 
Excellent potential tomes!

Oh, BTW, Dr. B: Were you giggin' me fer likin' good-lookin' girls or for my pidgen Meskin? Either way, I yam what I yam. ;-)
 
Pidgen Meskin, ER? You're a laugh riot. Sometimes I wonder how long it takes you to come up with some of those spellings, because I know I really have to think 'em through sometimes when I try it.

And fer the redneck record, I don't care how hot Ann Coulter is. She starts yammerin' about politics in the bedroom, ol' Woodrow Wilsom becomes Limpy (sic) Rutherford.
 
Huh. Still like her. :)

I wish Anonymous would own his/her words. It doesn't take any great backbone or character to criticize and insult while hiding behind a keyboard.

At least Ann knows precisely where she stands and isn't afraid to say so. I think her critics are just mad that she's smart, funny and beautiful. Very threatening to some.
 
Now, wait a minute, re: "I wish Anonymous would own his/her words. It doesn't take any great backbone or character to criticize and insult while hiding behind a keyboard."

So says "Frenzied Feline." Uh, MOST of us are anonymous here, including yerself, whether we use a handle like "Erudite Redneck" or Anonymous! For good reasons. Sheesh. Ya dork.

Coulter smart? You really think so? Smart-aleck, check. Glib, check. Witty, check. A babe? Check. With-it enough to have found a public voice and platform? Good for her. But SMART? I think not. But that's just me. :-)
 
First of all, Frenzied Feline, you're not a dork. (Real mature, ER) And I agree with you, FF, Ann Coulter IS smart. She wrote 4 New York Times bestsellers, writes a syndicated column for Universal Press Syndicate, she was named one of the top 100 Public Intellectuals in 2001, she clerked for the Pasco Bowman II of the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit and was an attorney in the Department of Justice Honors Program for outstanding law school graduates. She also had her own private law practice for a time and later worked for the Senate Judiciary Committee, where she handled crime and immigration issues for Senator Spencer Abraham of Michigan.

From there, she became a litigator with the Center For Individual Rights in Washington, DC, a public interest law firm dedicated to the defense of individual rights with particular emphasis on freedom of speech, civil rights, and the free exercise of religion.

She graduated with honors from Cornell University School of Arts & Sciences, and received her J.D. from University of Michigan Law School, where she was an editor of The Michigan Law Review.

Sheesh. Just because she doesn't agree with your point of view in a very passionate, sometimes even harsh, way doesn't mean the woman doesn't have brains. You might even say she's "erudite".
 
Uh, excuse me, but who the hell said I was trying to be "mature," ya dork!?! Holy Shinola. That's for shit that matters, not this blog.

And, I'll give ya: yer right, she is smart. She's just not very ... I don't know ... important, really. Just stirs people up and sells books.

In 50 years, Ann Coulter won't rate a mention, no more than a footnote anyway, in any book about the the 1990s or the 2-oughts.

I've got a short stack of book by people just like her from the 1920s and 1930s. Nobody know their names now. Enjoy her while ya can.
 
But that Al Franken, why, they'll still be building statues to his intellect and importance.
 
I was criticizing neither your Spanglish nor your liking good-looking women. I was merely pointing out that Ann Coulter does not fall into that category, I am sorry.
 
She wrote 4 New York Times bestsellers, writes a syndicated column for Universal Press Syndicate, she was named one of the top 100 Public Intellectuals in 2001

I won't speak to the law stuff, but none of the above is evidence of intelligence, either, by the way. Just good marketing.
 
Nope. Al Franken is a fly-by-night-sell-some-books yahoo, too. Geez, If yer gonna bait me, use some real bait!
 
Good marketing does take intelligence. I still think she's the bride of Satan, though.
 
Satan would choose a smart bride. Most people don't know that Maggie Thatcher was one of his wives. And he's dallying with Hillary right now! Satan is an equal opportunity dallier.
 
I'm sorry. I never meant to accuse you of being mature. My bad. I guess the IM you sent saying this blog "wadn't a kiddiegarten class" and you were discussing serious stuff here didn't apply to all your posts.

And, I'm not quite sure what your point was about her books...you said first that she won't matter in 50 years and then you say you have a stack of books by people just like her. If they don't matter, why are you buying their books?

And Dr. B, one best seller might be a fluke, but FOUR? It has to take some intelligence to do that, even if it's just knowing how to market a book.
 
I want to clarify that Satan is not Bill Clinton. Crystal wasn't sure if that was what I meant so I wanted to be clear. Well, as clear as I get. It's not so much that I live in my own little world ... No, wait, that's it exactly. I'm happy here.
 
Yep, we're all "anonymous," but the rest of us aren't "Anonymous." Using the adjective as your own proper noun is nothing more than using it as a hedge to hide behind because you're afraid to own up with an identity, even an online identity.

I didn't post my opinion as "Anonymous," even though that's a choice I can check before I publish my comment. Though "FrenziedFeline" is not my real life name (though my parents do have something of a sense of humor--hehe), I own what I say by using my online identity. I don't hide behind a hedge so I can later deny I said it.

I know you allow anonymous comments on your blog, your choice. However, I still wish "Anonymous" would pick an an online identity and post with it. Adds more legitimacy to the post, but that's just me.

And Crystal, thanks. :)
 
Re, Crystal: "I guess the IM you sent saying this blog 'wadn't a kiddiegarten class' " ... The protocal and etiquette of blogging are evolving, but I consider your referring to a personal communication in this forum a violation. Don't do it again.

There are good reasons for being anonymous, as well as Anonymous. Some people just gotta have a "name" to keep in mind when they get all irritated at someone else, and not having one drives 'em crazy, and I happen to like that kind of crazy.

And, and, well, splitting hairs, or in this case lowercase "a" versus capital "A" is just silly.

And, another thing, I have given express permission to some people to post words that they did not want to have their on-line identity attached to, because the ideas, even frivolous ones like the names of future Ann Coulter books, are more important to me than who came up with them. High horses everywhere. Get down off 'em!

As for the books, the old ones that I referred to, I got 'em for 50 cents or $1 apiece. Only people who appreciate wrongheaded, outdated opinion, like me, would want them. Coulter's books are halfway there.
 
Tech, thanks for chiming in. Long time no comment!
 
Yeah chiming like a bell - loud and empty.

Coulter is doing more for this nation than anyone on this dorkblog. At least she is out there in public trying to get people to change.

Bitchphd is a typical liberal that decides to say a conservative spokesperson isn't intelligent just because she's found an receptive audience for her message of common sense.

One more comment - attempting to make a virtue out of being a redneck is a lot like trying to make a saint out of a Nazi.

Signed
Anonymous (because I can)
 
Re, "attempting to make a virtue out of being a redneck is a lot like trying to make a saint out of a Nazi."

Bullshit. The virtuosity of redneckery is self-evident. It don't nee my help. But then, I'm for legal cockfighting, too.

Re, "Bitch PHD is a typical liberal ..."

Lordy no. She is anything but typical. "Typical" liberals, and "typical" conservatives are bo-ring.

I'll give Coulter that: She stirs up sheeit. Look how much fun we've had right here because of her. My Resistol is off to her.

Same with Bitch. She ain't bo-ring, and her writin' is anything but "typical" thick-headed academese.
 
Well, damn it all to hades. That last post is mine. How ironic that I accidentally posted anonymously!
 
Talk about high horses. This E.R. dude is about as high as it gets. His blog is for comments that agree with him, otherwise you get called names like "dork" which is very kindergarten like. Both Frenzied Feline and Crystal Diggory expressed their views and got slammed for it. If you want a truly neutral place to discuss things, I suggest you look elsewhere. Just don't bother looking at his precious Dr. E.R.'s blog. She's as full of herself as he is.

Signed,
Anonymous (because I can too)
 
"The protocal and etiquette of blogging are evolving, but I consider your referring to a personal communication in this forum a violation." Really? This is what makes you feel violated? Huh.

You know, it's your blog, you can make up whatever rules you want, make 'em up as you go along even, but maybe you should post 'em because I definitely see some gray areas and potential for me to step on your toes again.

For instance, I noticed Tech made a reference to a personal communication he and I had outside of this blog...are you going to scold him, too, or is it just personal communications with you we're not allowed to refer to? Frankly, I don't care if Tech makes a reference to something I said outside of this blog -- I don't mind defending what I say outside of this forum. But, it's your blog, your rules. Maybe you just didn't notice he did that.

I noticed there are also references from Trixie and other people you work with about your work place, parties, what you do for a living, where you live, and other events outside of this forum, ad nauseum, so can I assume it's okay to talk about past events, yes? Is it only immediate, recent communication with you we're not allowed to talk about?

You know, I didn't out you, give the name of the place you work, post your picture on the blog (although, you did do that) or mention anything that have happened in the past that might ID you. I quoted 4 words from that personal missive, none of which referred to anyone else on this blog or betrayed a confidence or outed anyone else on this blog. I guess I'm still a little confused about why you thought this was a violation.

Frankly, I like being on a high horse. I like the view much better from up here. You can see so much farther.

FF: I think you're totally right about anonymous posts. If you haven't got the guts to own your own words, why should we care what you have to say? How important could it be?
 
Crystal,

Great comments. I think there are things written we all should take into consideration. Knowing ER, I realize he loves to stir debate, and sometimes that hits a trigger on many levels. Doesn't make it right, but it happens.

I'll defend him because he's my friend, but there were things written that stepped over that line. I'm sure he knows it, too.

Ol' ER has bagged on me for finding entertainment, and that's fine. But he knows in his heart I come here for a belly laugh 99 percent of the time, and he really doesn't mind.

I know I get riled a little by an anonymous punk making comments. Sure we're all a little anonymous to a point, but the way these folks are using their status is true to their chickenshit nature. That's all. I think it's great to disagree and try to turn the other side to yours, that's what debate's about. If you want to debate anonymously, I don't have a problem with that. But attacking behind the giant curtain is similar to shooting a foe in the back. It's worm infestation.
 
Authors don't market their own books.

I'm not saying AC is not intelligent; I'm saying the public role she plays doesn't show evidence of anything other than an ability to stir up shit and use polemic, falsehood, and prejudice to political advantage. Sure, a smart person can do that; but so can someone who's not all that smart. It's not all that hard or challenging or original to say that feminists are all ugly, that liberals hate America, yadda yadda yadda. It certainly doesn't show any ability to engage in critical thought or fact-checking.
 
BPHD, authors DO market their own books. I wish we lived in a world where we didn't have to, but we do. Please see author links on TECH's site where you will find many authors who have to market their own books; some of these authors have even been on the New York Times bestselling list. The publishing industry has changed significantly and has little money for marketing third- and second-tier authors. Only first-tier authors can count on significant monies being spent on their marketing. (And even they are sometimes slighted, i.e. Stephen King's tirade about the lack of support from his publisher.) The rest of us must use web sites, newsletters, local book signings, speaking at civic clubs, and yes, even selling books out of the trunks of our cars.

However, Ms. Coulter has enough money to pay for the services of a marketing firm. Thus her marketing cannot be used as proof positive of her intelligence, other than to note she was smart enough to realize she needed their services.
 
Dr.B: Authors don't market their own books? What?? The hell they don't. Wait, are you saying that with a straight face? I'm sure you realize book signings, public appearances, guest appearances on talk shows, selling your book at the back of the room after lectures and working out a strategy to sell books with your publisher is marketing. I'm also sure you're aware many, many authors -- some of whom you may even like -- do these very things. At least the successul ones do. Of COURSE authors market their books. Ha! You almost got me.

As for your opinion of Coulter, well, that's yours and you're certainly entitled to it. Actually, she's a little too much hyperbole for me, even when I do agree with her. If I have to listen to someone with a political bias, I prefer Jon Stewart.

teditor: I've known ER for -- well, maybe I better not say for how long -- I'm still not sure what's going to pop up on his list of what I can and cannot say, but let's just say it's been awhile. You don't have to defend him to me. He just has a knack for pushing my buttons once in awhile. A "knack"? It's actually more like a gift. :)

I am still a little stunned he thought my repeating his own words back to him was more of a violation of blogging etiquette than some of the crap he lets the Anon people post. Oh, well..it's his blog. I'll get over it.

And it's funny, but the "shooting someone in the back" was the exact metaphor I was thinking of after I read some of the last anon posts.
 
Man, if you think "dork" is an attack, then, by all means, stay away.
 
Crystal, it is precisely because you used my words against me, out of context, from a personal not to YOU, not to the blogworld at large, that it was a violation. Exavtly. If you can't see that, I can't help you. Also, there is a link to the left that has been on this blog for months, called READ ME. You obviously havent.
 
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OK, Nick Toper: Christ hung on the cross to defend his bride (the Church). He didn't spew invective. Or stomp around threatening to kick ass.

But I guess that was a different time period. Today, the focus is on family instead of Christ -- at least at certain right-leaning organizations.

Yeah, you rock.
 
Re, "I think you're totally right about anonymous posts. If you haven't got the guts to own your own words, why should we care what you have to say? How important could it be?" Right. So put your name on here. No, don't. But what TF part of "anonymous" don't ya'll understand???

Re, "ER, I don't care that you did it (and I'm sure you wouldn't have if you thought it would have bothered me) but you did base an entire post a few months back on a personal e-mail exchange the two of us had ("Back and forth on Schiavo"). ..."

Yer right. I did. I called you out. And when you called me on it, I admitted my mistake and went back and deleted yer handle from my post. You later came back and owned up to it, reopening the door.

So, what? Yer point, I mean?

I admitted that I violated an implied confidence. My friend Crystal did the same thing I did. Did I delete her "violation"? No, I simply told her she had crossed a line, like you told me, and told her not to cross it again.

Would you people please take a class in logic?? :-)

--ER
 
Oh, re, "Christ hung on the cross to defend his bride (the Church). He didn't spew invective. Or stomp around threatening to kick ass."

I'm pretty sure it was me spewing invective and stomping around threatening to kick ass, not Nick. So what TF are you talking about?

--ER
 
Yes, I was in error. Many, if not most authors do market their own books.

But I'd bet money that the marketing plan for AC's books ain't done by her. She may *participate* in it, but I'll wager she doesn't set up her own speaking engagements and so forth. Does she even do book readings? Her marketing is handled by the publisher, you just know it is.
 
What's illogical about such an assumption? Ignoring what I just said -- that's what! That I admitted my error, and did my best to take it back. Anybody who was reading along should have noticed that. And I suspect the offender was reading along. And no, you miss the whole goldarn point ablut anonymity. I would not use your words against you, by name, or handle, or whatever, in the way the offender did. Not now. Not again. I offended you then, without thinking. Then, you called me on it -- is there a needle stuck in here? -- then I retracted it! The offender has yet to retract, apologize, come clean or anything. ... And with you, mi amigo, I'm not quarreling! AHHHHHGGHGHGHGGHGH!
 
Okay, since I was the first to post a response on this post. I feel I need to 'splain a thing or two.

First, my first post I was joking around that perhaps she really does know how to talk to a liberal since she's dating one. I even said, "Hehe," to indicate the joking part. Hopefully ya'll got that. ;)
(Notice the winking to indicate kidding around, lest anyone think I'm insulting their intelligence.)

The next few posts included Tech, Bitchphd, me and ER all joshing back and forth about what we think of Ann.

I feel that Anonymous went overboard with it, but that's my feeling, and this is ER's place, so I'll just get over it that some choose, and ER allows it, to use Anonymous as their handle. (However, it would be nice to know just how many Anonymouses there are. Perhaps they could identify themselves within the post by number. The first gets the plain name of Anonymous, and if anyone else chooses to use it adds a "2" to it. Just an idea--don't anyone blow anything over it.)

That escalated to me eventually being called a "dork" by ER. I now know that he means that in a friendly way, but since I don't know him, at all, in real life, I didn't know he wasn't insulting me. So I have to admit to being miffed. I also thank Crystal for standing up for me. :)

I will also stand up for Crystal in that it is a bit unclear what your rules are, ER, so maybe a listing of the rules would be a good idea. I know you have that "Read Me" link, but it's awfully small at the end of a long list. Perhaps if that's what you want to use for your rules, you should make it more noticeable.

"Anonymous (because I can too)" was out of line as a guest in someone else's house, no matter how open this forum is.

So, before I crack another joke, I'll be sure to add more "hehe's," maybe some "LOL's," and some winkies and smilies.

That work for you? :) :)
 
Now, Three & Eight, don't faint that I'm saying this... ;)

Hey, Bill Clinton was a Rhodes scholar. He's intelligent, too. Gonna add him to that list? Some of those people obviously don't deserve to be lumped in with others of that list. IMHO

The issue is not intelligence, it's viewpoints. I think we've all made it clear where we stand. :)
 
Frenzied, re, "First, my first post ..." That is a fair and accurate summation of the day's rantings, IMHO. :-) Really, it seems to have been an interloper who first got out of line -- and that's cool. Interlopers, intralopers and just plain lopers, y'all come. I really do not understand the whole anonymous-Anonymous thing, though. Just don't get it. But hey, that's cool, too.
 
Let's forget the Anonymous thing. It's your blog and I won't say another thing about it. I'd like to continue the enjoyment of reading your blog, so I'll just keep my big cyber-mouth shut. :)
 
By the way, ER, what's the record highest count of comments on one posting of yours?
 
Note: Yosemite Sam had edited the "High horses and low blows" post. :-)

And Frenzied, this is definitely a record for comments on this here blog.
 
You still need to milk a horse.

A male horse.

And if you don't think this is funny, well, then you are a redneck. Without the erudite.
 
Horse milkin' IS funny, in a rednecky way. But do not besmirch the good name of Dr. ER. Just don't go there. With her, I've got an itch delete finger.
 
And poor ol' Tech, just strollin' along, wanders into this mess and getds attacked for trying to inject a little levity. Issues and ideas people! Keep the personal attacks to a minimum -- or at least directed at me, not other commenters, and for damn sure not Dr. ER.
 
The reference to your milking a male horse and then having your wife tell a story about it obviously went way, way, way over your head. But you are on a hair trigger, and that inhibits your ability to think straight. If you stop and think about this, you will be LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
 
"Milking a male horse" is a white house speech writters rip off from the John Wayne movie Hatari. Not even original. Just like "Ask not what your country can do for you....." was a white house speech writters rip off of the Lebanonese poet Kahil Gibran. Now if Ann Coulter had wrote that bit for Mrs. President it would have really been funny.
I have enjoyed watching you kids. Keep up the comments.
 
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